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For better or worse I have taken the first step on the road of CNC engineering. No I am not going to embrace this section of model engineering. I am not ready for nailing my colours to the CAD/CAm mast. I am not a snob who decries either 'normal' or computer based model engineering. Nor do I see me ever converting a lathe to CNC. However a long term (two or three years) aim is to have a CNC milling machine. Perhaps the American Sherline system, I don't know. My reasons for buying a Cad/Caam package now is that I have to start sometime to get a grip with computer aided design. Indeed I have a need now to produce 2 dimension drawings to compliment my article on building the chess set. I also aim next year to design, and start to build, an internal combustion engine. And a good quallity CAD package is a must for that task. I choose (or they choose me!) BobCad for reasons of cost. Its a comprehensive production quality package and its 'retail' price is 'considerable'! I started by trying to download and run other packages such as Alibre, Rhino and Solidworks but I couldn't even get most of them to run or knew the costs were out of my range. Most of the packages mentioned above offer a 'free' trial and then after a certain time (or not allowing you to save your work) restrict their use. BobCad came up on a search along with the others and after downloading I couldn't get this program to run as well. So I uninstalled it and thought I would produce the diagrams for the chess article by hand. When a few days later I had a call from America from a salesman who explained that as I was using the program as a hobbyist they would reduce the price considerably! I stated my reasons for purchase and the fact that I didn't at this time need the CAM side and he explained I could add this module later for a specified fee. I 'negotiated' their training CD's to be included in the price and since it didn't bear any relationship to the headline price, decided to buy. (contd. below) |
Some images from the 'practice' I am doing whilst waiting for the training cd's to arrive. The photo on the right is a 3D viwe of the Queen to scale. |
This is the King and I 'discovered' how to make the hole in the top which will hold the cross. |
The Pawn was my first attempt at using the program. Again it is dimensioned correctly and thats relected in the proportions. |
Now I am starting the more complicated pieces. The photo above is the start of the castleation on top. I worked out how to make two of the indentations but now need to work out how to position the other sets. |
This is the simple part of the bishop. The top is going to be more complicated and I haven't yet worked out how to do this. I am hoping the training cd's will help if not they have a 45 day help period.......... |
Before I finaly agreed the salesman put me through to a gentleman who ran through a demo of the software. As always, if you know what your doing it looks very impressive. I also am old enough in the tooth to recognise there will be a steep learning curve, but then thats what life should be about, isn't it? Passed back to the salesman, we did the deal and he said the software would be delivered by Thursday (this was a Monday). Needless to say it was the following Monday (after chasing it up) when the parcel arrived. If I was told it would arrive on Monday I would still have been happy. Why they say these things I don't know. Then when it arrives it is minus the training cd's! I am a novice novice! and the training cd's were vital. They still haven't arrived at the time of writing (Friday 21st Nov 08) and when chasing again, they have been sent out today. Funny that..... So were not off to a good start really. I have a desktop and a laptop computer and you recieve a 'dongle' (a USB stick) which allows you to install their software on as many computers as you like because their is only one dongle. They also recommend you don't loose it as there is no replacement (funny its not mentioned when you buy, isn't it). I load it onto the desktop and part way through the installation a memory error comes up. With fingers crossed I continue on and it loads. Starting the program is fine and I have a 'play' before installing it on my laptop. Because I lay down around 18 hours a day the laptop is in continous use. It keeps me occupied! When installing on the laptop the same memory error crops up but the installation continues and when starting the program it seems fine. Well I settled down to see what I could do and when you use the software you can work in 2D or 3D and because I don't (notice I don't say didn't) know hat I am doing I somehow turn off the solid feature. Now starts a tortious wasted 8 hours trying to get it back on. I even uninstall it, hoping that re-installing it it would reset back to normal. You guessed it, it didn't work. Now in amongst this time several emails go off to the 'help' desk. Why is it IT help starts from the premise of not reading emails and thinking every one is an expert! Eventually I get a response saying that if I press S the sloid will come back. I was also given some other letters that did other functions. Well that sounded good enough for me and with great expectation I started the computer up (it was hiding in a corner after I had been shouting at it!) and waited for ever the program finally loaded. You may have guessed but, no it didn't work! The other functions did, but not mine. Rather than try the 'expert' I decided to search the internet to see if others have had a similiar problem. One of the posts I read said that you should set the properties of BobCad to run in Windows XP. Ahh perhaps the problem lies with the software not running under Vista. No, that can't be as the salesman would have netioned it, wouldn't he? So I go to the desktop version and change it to XP. The desk top version of Vista is the business one. Now over to the laptop, bear in mind this is the computer I always use.........I change it to XP, reboot the computer, wait for it to 'start' up.........load the program up (the laptop uses Vista basic) and.........yes you may have guessed it, it still didn't work. If it wasn't for my stubborn streak the computer would have been going on holiday in the garden, via the bedroom window! So I gave up. About 0400 hours (I don't sleep well) I suddenly remembered that I had a spare laptop sitting in the garage. It has a defective in built mouse system and was slow, very slow.......Also the memory was also much less than my current laptop but it did have XP. I wondered if I cleared most of the programs off and cleaned the disc up, fitied an external mouse to get over the keyboard problem, whether it would work on that? It would have the advantage of being useable in the workshop in some future time...... With little enthuusiasm I spent the next day (!) cleaning up the disk by uninstalling most of the programs then cleaning up the disk (another 8 hours) when installing the program I noticed there wasn't a memory error showing up. Could be a good sign........After the installtion was completed I put the dongle in and..................it worked! yes thats right, it worked! So a clapped out, low spec laptop worked where the much higher spec laptop failed. I now lay on the bed with a laptop in both hands! talk about laugh! Some 18 hours wasted! I must say I may change my mind (I hope so) but Bobcad isn't very high up on my list of customer serviced companies. I had to find out myself how to cure a problem that I would be amazed they didn't know about prior to selling it too me. Well hopefully that is now in the past. I have had about 4 hours use at the moment and have produced the pieces shown above. If I knew more about how to use the program I may be a little more pleased. But what I have done so far has been enjoyable and interesting. So much good will can be easily lost over simple things. Why don't these companies learn? If I ran my organisation like that I would be horrified. Its not sufficient to say 'well its IT' because it is a sale of a product with advertised good support. I have yet to see ANY support! Perhaps the next entry here will be more positive? Of the pictures above I am pleased with the Pawn, Queen and King (minus the cross) but have yet to master the top of the Bishop, any of the Knight and I have discovered part of the castleations for the rook. So there is still plenty to learn but at least the training cd's I know are on the way! |
27th November 2008 Well I have had the opportunity to review the training CD's supplied by BobCad and I must say I am impressed. I may not be as impressed with my ability to absorb the information but thats not the fault of BobCad. I will let you know how I get on....... |
CAD/CAM page - updated 1st December 2008 |
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